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Firstly - apologies for all the CoE and, more recently Gwen-centred bashing in this journal. I promise you it will eventually, maybe, someday ... stop. Okay, the Gwen-bashing might, but CoE was so much fail even bringing Ianto back won't make me see that many positives, I shouldn't think.



Anyhoo, I bring you more fail - of the most epic of proportions. Perhaps not quite so epic a the possiblity of sound travelling in space, or a virus being released from an air-tight box and actually being able to kill people in under ten minutes (c'mon! Even ebola isn't that fast - and ebola's had practice!), but it is still quite a ridiculous failure.


Look at the day, clearly spelt out on Ianto's newspaper at the beginning of Day Two:



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So ... if Day Two was Wednesday, Day Three was Thursday and Day Four was Friday ... logic tells us that Day Five would be a Saturday. So ... um ... why were all the kids at school, in full school uniform, on a Saturday?

Also, Gareth was exhibiting a bit of a weird thumb, there. Dontcha think?

Date: 2009-10-16 11:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amcpep.livejournal.com
Maybe because....they had a day off and the goverment insisted they went into school on the Saturday instead?? I wouldn't put anything past them in this plot (and I use the word plot in the widest sense of the word).
Also, not quite sure why I'm looking for reasons to defend plot holes. I like plot holes, they make the whole thing more...laughable. And I need to laugh at it or I might just start to cry again.

Date: 2009-10-16 12:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-silver-story.livejournal.com
I thought that - but with all the talk of "everything is normal, everything is fine", making the kids go in to school on a weekend would just be a direct contradiction of that ethic, in my mind.

*shrugs*

Date: 2009-10-16 12:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] explodeyy.livejournal.com
The papers were delivered at night, so I guess the papers were meant for the next day, which means that was really Tuesday and the students would be at school Friday.
Edited Date: 2009-10-16 12:31 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-10-16 12:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-silver-story.livejournal.com
It was the same night of the explosion, so if the papers were for the next day it would be Tuesday night with the papers delivered for Wednesday morning.

Date: 2009-10-16 01:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shannon730.livejournal.com
I try to the horrible plot holes in a positive way...if the plot was actually as airtight as it should be it would be so much harder to come up with a way to bring Ianto back.

Date: 2009-10-16 01:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-silver-story.livejournal.com
I like your way of thinking! Brilliant optimism!


Maybe they could bring Ianto back because ... everyone thought that it was Thursday, but in actual fact it was Friday, and on the Friday in question the stars were not aligned for such a sacrifice.

As Tulio and Miguel said in The Road to El Dorado:

"Stars ...


.... can't do it."

Date: 2009-10-16 01:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shannon730.livejournal.com
It's too many years in the Buffy fandom where favorite characters were killed all the time. You learn to latch onto denial and plot holes help. :)

Date: 2009-10-16 01:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-silver-story.livejournal.com
De Nial ... that's in Egypt isn't it?

I think I need to move there permanently. Apparently it's quite blissful ;)

Date: 2009-10-16 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] killedmedead.livejournal.com
LoL - I'll join you... *giggle* :D

Date: 2009-10-16 02:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] abby-juniper.livejournal.com
*snickers* Please don't ever stop the CoE-bashing and the Gwen-bashing! Please! It makes me laugh after a bad day! (Also, my friend who read this over my shoulder said: "Oh my god, that [CoE] was so rubbish. It had, like, loads of flaws and stuff." And she isn't even a TW fan!)

The being-in-school on a Saturday thing? Well...what about Saturday-school? Loads of schools in the UK have Saturday school; I went to one for a while.

Date: 2009-10-16 02:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-silver-story.livejournal.com
I doubt the "lowest ten per cent" of achievers went to a Saturday school, and those were the targets. I've never really heard of state-run Saturday or weekend school ...

I never had a Saturday school at my school - and I have a feeling we'd have been included in the margin of ... I dunno what to call it ... margin of those to be sacrificed? Beside that, every child was supposedly at school.

Date: 2009-10-16 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] abby-juniper.livejournal.com
It was an RAF-camp school that I went to for a couple of years when I came back from the US, so...yeah. That could also affect it. And, like you said, apparently all kids were at school.

*facepalm* Seriously, writers, start thinking through your storylines a bit better! A good deal of fanfic writers do more research than you do!

Date: 2009-10-16 04:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iceshade.livejournal.com
what about the fact that the month says september?
PROOF THAT IANTO ISN'T REALLY DEAD AMIRITE?

Date: 2009-10-16 04:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magicmalcolm.livejournal.com
Personally, I find the whole maximum 21 degrees temperature in September to be more offensive. ;)

But, hell, I didn't even know CoE was set in September. Shows how much I was paying attention, really.

Date: 2009-10-16 09:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aviv-b.livejournal.com
I read somewhere that it was set in November. But as RTD would say, details, details, feck them details. Who cares if Ianto has 3 birthdays or if Dr Who dates and TW dates are a year off, he's the world's greatest writer (yes he is, cause he told you so).

And I just spent an hour determining what day of the week Christmas would have fallen on the December after the Battle of Canary Wharf (not so hard except for that DW/TW year difference confusion). Hey I'm not saying I'm a better writer than him but at least I can get my facts right.

Date: 2009-10-16 09:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aviv-b.livejournal.com
And when I don't, I thank my readers and FIX THE MESS!

But then again, my readers are not hysterical women.

Date: 2009-10-19 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coffee-n-retcon.livejournal.com
I see it as yet more evidence that shows proof-possitive that the whole COE debacle was set in an alternate universe... See, it's an AU where the school week runs Tuesday through Saturday, a triple deadlock can't keep petty car thieves from the TW SUV, and Jack couldn't save Ianto.

Now, meanwhile, back in OUR reality...

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