TW Series 4 Announced - no American reboot, but it's going to be 'bigger and bolder than ever'

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Torchwood series 4 Announced


According to the quote in the article, it's going to be 'bigger and bolder than ever' (what? again? Bigger and bolder than ever ... again? FFS! 'bigger and bolder' doesn't exactly translate well. Look at Jurassic Park II and the TRex in San Diego! May have been bigger ... certainly wasn't 'better'.)

Thankfully not an American reboot (thank Christ they dropped that idea), but it will be a ten episode, three-way production between BBC Cyrmu, BBC Worldwide and American network Starz with RTD, Julie Gardner and Jane Tranter in charge. Instead of being based in Cardiff, it's going to be all over the place in 'international locations'.

Just what the Torchwood fans wanted. Definitely. Without a doubt. I mean, one of the things we LOVED about CoE was that it wasn't in Cardiff, right?


Why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why can't they just FUCKING. STAY. IN. CARDIFF? And WTF? Gwen's still in Torchwood? Does she lose her baby somehow? Surely Gwen isn't so irresponsible (okay - she's had her moments, but when it comes to kids, parents generally have some form of clarity) as to continue work for Torchwood with a dependent child? I mean ... it's not like she KNOWS RTD will NEVER EVER kill her ....

Maybe she'll just be wandering around in the background like Donna did in the End of Time, with no discernible or real reason for being there other than LOOK AT THE POPULAR ACTRESS! LOOK! WE DIDN'T FORGET HER AFTER WE BALLSED UP HER STORYLINE!

And JACK - sending Jack off-planet at the end of CoE always confused me. Cuz ... there was no way they weren't gonna bring him back. What a waste of my screen time.


JACK: I'm going. I can't ever return here. This planet is a graveyard to me.

[an appropriate amount of plot happens (though probably not very much, really)]

JACK: IMMA BACK, AND IT'S GONNA BE BIGGA AND BETTA THAN EVARRRRR!




Maybe series four will be Jack taking Rhys, Gwen and Baby around all the places he visited on his six months travelling after torturing his grandson to death.


Despite my instantly negative reaction, I will have to give it a go. There is the teeniest, tiniest smidgen of chance that it might actually be worth the time and effort. My biggest drawbacks are a) WTF NOT IN CARDIFF? WHY WHY WHY??? WHAT ABOUT THE RIFT?

REMEMBER THE RIFT???????

and b) RTD is writing again. Could he at least have a beta this time? Please? Maybe a continuation whiteboard to go with his new, shiny, US office?

Cuz ... srsly ... USA can keep him.



EDIT: As iantogodeo pointed out, there's no mention of Kai Owen or Tom Price. Maybe Rhys and Andy ran away together with Gwen's baby, and that's why it's vaguely sane for Gwen to still be with Torchwood. Rhys + Andy= Rhandy. CSI: Cardiff could still happen.

Comments

[jantoforever21.livejournal.com]

I completely agree with you. I mean, where is the 'Torchwood' in 'world-wide'? And what's the point of bringing in new characters but keeping Gwen? She has a family now! It's just not Torchwood anymore... not without Ianto, Tosh, Owen or the Hub. It really would've been nice to have that be the end of the show (well, that's my second choice, following the one where no one died at all.

RTD makes me very angry -- I mean, I *did* have a couple of benefits from watching COE (the greatest one being that it changed my views on homosexuality completely (before COE, I didn't really know who Ianto was, since I'd only seen a couple episodes nearly half a year ago, so I went back and watched each episode)). But still, RTD should just listen to "the fans"( I resent from saying "his" because anyone who wants the old TW back probably isn't one).

[bettathnbarbie.livejournal.com]

It's interesting to me that CoE apparently changed your views on homosexuality. Was it in a positive direction? Was it CoE itself that caused the change, or what you saw in the old episodes?

I ask because I thought CoE changed Torchwood from being GLBT-positive to ... well, I thought it took a 180 degree turn. I can give you some examples if you want, but I'm more interested in hearing about how it affected you. (I'm happy to switch to PM if you want, too.)

[jantoforever21.livejournal.com]

I have sent you with a PM with my answer (it is kind of long though).

[bettathnbarbie.livejournal.com]

Thank you so much! I'll read it.

[angelkitty101.livejournal.com]

I totally agree with you on the turn that CoE took.

The whole 'It's not men, it's just him' bollocks really really pissed me off!

Torchwood went from being a bi-positive show to bi-invisibility, and that makes me cross!

[theorclair.livejournal.com]

I'm a total kinsey scale 0 myself, but one of the things I liked about TW was that there were two bisexual characters who just happened to be that way, and one you could define even more broadly than that. And it was just there and no one really had an issue with it.

[bettathnbarbie.livejournal.com]

That really was nice, wasn't it? Sigh.

And yep, angelkitty the bi-invisibility is one of the things that really aggravated me. Had a girlfriend? You're straight. Now have a boyfriend? You're gay. Not bi. Gay. Queer. And you smell funny. I mean, really... Grrrr...